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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asha - You&#039;re a good parent regardless. :-) We all know about being frustrated and tired and confused and every other emotion. What we do really isn&#039;t any different than what you&#039;re doing. It&#039;s trial-and-error and it&#039;s hanging in there as best you can until it works. 

I know we sometimes make it sound like roses and sunshine around here, but there are plenty of times it&#039;s not. I&#039;m not even sure what makes a &#039;good parent&#039;, but there are plenty of times we don&#039;t feel like we are. But I think if we can take the frustrations and doubts along with the work and the achievements, do the best we can, and keep our feet moving forward, that sounds like enough to me. I&#039;ll let other people figure out what being a good parent actually is. &quot;People who are doing the best they can&quot; feels like a good definition to me.

It sounds like your daughter is really starting to shine now! It&#039;s those victories - no matter how big or small - that make all the difference. Yay! And it sounds like you got to go to a store and she did something really great while you were there. Sounds like improvement there too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asha &#8211; You&#8217;re a good parent regardless. <img src='http://www.bothhandsandaflashlight.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  We all know about being frustrated and tired and confused and every other emotion. What we do really isn&#8217;t any different than what you&#8217;re doing. It&#8217;s trial-and-error and it&#8217;s hanging in there as best you can until it works. </p>
<p>I know we sometimes make it sound like roses and sunshine around here, but there are plenty of times it&#8217;s not. I&#8217;m not even sure what makes a &#8216;good parent&#8217;, but there are plenty of times we don&#8217;t feel like we are. But I think if we can take the frustrations and doubts along with the work and the achievements, do the best we can, and keep our feet moving forward, that sounds like enough to me. I&#8217;ll let other people figure out what being a good parent actually is. &#8220;People who are doing the best they can&#8221; feels like a good definition to me.</p>
<p>It sounds like your daughter is really starting to shine now! It&#8217;s those victories &#8211; no matter how big or small &#8211; that make all the difference. Yay! And it sounds like you got to go to a store and she did something really great while you were there. Sounds like improvement there too!</p>
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		<title>By: asha</title>
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		<dc:creator>asha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi  Mary &amp; Tim,

Your Blog is the reason I even play-teach my girl .Every time I get frustruated with her..which is pretty often..mostly when she does senseless things like crashing on sofa, bed ..sensory  seeking..my husband tells me ,that I shd follow your example  i.e be a good parent , he knows I follow your blog regularly .
Keep on blogging I have great expectations from JMan..
2day we went 2 ikea ,and when we entered the bedroom  section ,she started saying sleep ....I was sooo thrilled ..pointing to the bed :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi  Mary &amp; Tim,</p>
<p>Your Blog is the reason I even play-teach my girl .Every time I get frustruated with her..which is pretty often..mostly when she does senseless things like crashing on sofa, bed ..sensory  seeking..my husband tells me ,that I shd follow your example  i.e be a good parent , he knows I follow your blog regularly .<br />
Keep on blogging I have great expectations from JMan..<br />
2day we went 2 ikea ,and when we entered the bedroom  section ,she started saying sleep &#8230;.I was sooo thrilled ..pointing to the bed <img src='http://www.bothhandsandaflashlight.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elysa - You&#039;re so right about the velcro. I may ask someone to work on a velcro-themed design. :-)

Good thinking about the envelopes! That one hadn&#039;t dawned on me because the flimsy envelopes we use here seemed like they wouldn&#039;t last long in our house. You can certainly get higher quality ones, though. I found some old ones I used for mailing resumes a long time ago that would work much better.

I also thought about cutting up manila folders and sealing the edges, but that seemed pretty clunky when I tried it. 

I think in the time-rationing we do around here that just buying the pockets was the path of least resistance. Plus my crafty creativity still isn&#039;t anywhere near at the same level as our teachers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elysa &#8211; You&#8217;re so right about the velcro. I may ask someone to work on a velcro-themed design. <img src='http://www.bothhandsandaflashlight.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Good thinking about the envelopes! That one hadn&#8217;t dawned on me because the flimsy envelopes we use here seemed like they wouldn&#8217;t last long in our house. You can certainly get higher quality ones, though. I found some old ones I used for mailing resumes a long time ago that would work much better.</p>
<p>I also thought about cutting up manila folders and sealing the edges, but that seemed pretty clunky when I tried it. </p>
<p>I think in the time-rationing we do around here that just buying the pockets was the path of least resistance. Plus my crafty creativity still isn&#8217;t anywhere near at the same level as our teachers!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asha - The &#039;Hand&#039; card is from Goosie, but there are alternatives for making your own. One thing that many people use is &lt;a href=&quot;http://images.google.com&quot; target=&quot;blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google Images&lt;/a&gt;. For pictures like body parts, you could even take pictures of your daughter&#039;s hand, for example. Harder pictures to get like cows and sheep, are plentiful through Google. 

If she&#039;s doing a lot of associating of places and things, try taking pictures of those shops and using them at home to teach new words. Using her interests to make learning more fun and engaging for her makes a big difference as you&#039;ve already discovered with Elmo!

The best idea for that I&#039;ve heard so far is to get the pictures from &lt;a href=&quot;http://images.google.com&quot; target=&quot;blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google Images&lt;/a&gt;, paste them into a Word document, type the word for the picture under it, then size all that so it will print roughly at the size of a flash card. I&#039;d get some white card stock to print these on. If you&#039;re good with Word, you can set up tables and print several to a page. I should put together a template one of these days for doing that. It makes more sense when you see it perhaps. 

I think Goosie Cards are most helpful if you plan to need them over the long haul and buy ones that focus on specific learning goals. They have been great for us. If she&#039;s progressing quickly through speech and identifying things, do-it-yourself cards may be more appropriate since you&#039;ll be frequently adapting to her evolving needs. Goosie does offer discounts for kids with special needs (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bothhandsandaflashlight.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/pdfs/Goosie_Cards_Discount_Letter_and_Application.pdf&quot; target=&quot;blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;See the application letter I posted.&lt;/a&gt;), which I believe they said were becoming more generous this month. 

Another option is to get packs of flash cards from someplace like Target or a bookstore. I&#039;d highly recommend getting ones with real photos rather than the ones that just having drawings.

I personally think gibberish is great. To me, it&#039;s still a form of communication and engagement with the music. You&#039;ll obviously be working to refine that into clearer and clearer speech over time, but we&#039;ve learned to celebrate every kind of communication and build from there.

It sounds like your daughter is really progressing well! Good for her, and good for you too! And thanks for all your great questions and contributions here. Keep them coming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asha &#8211; The &#8216;Hand&#8217; card is from Goosie, but there are alternatives for making your own. One thing that many people use is <a href="http://images.google.com" target="blank" rel="nofollow">Google Images</a>. For pictures like body parts, you could even take pictures of your daughter&#8217;s hand, for example. Harder pictures to get like cows and sheep, are plentiful through Google. </p>
<p>If she&#8217;s doing a lot of associating of places and things, try taking pictures of those shops and using them at home to teach new words. Using her interests to make learning more fun and engaging for her makes a big difference as you&#8217;ve already discovered with Elmo!</p>
<p>The best idea for that I&#8217;ve heard so far is to get the pictures from <a href="http://images.google.com" target="blank" rel="nofollow">Google Images</a>, paste them into a Word document, type the word for the picture under it, then size all that so it will print roughly at the size of a flash card. I&#8217;d get some white card stock to print these on. If you&#8217;re good with Word, you can set up tables and print several to a page. I should put together a template one of these days for doing that. It makes more sense when you see it perhaps. </p>
<p>I think Goosie Cards are most helpful if you plan to need them over the long haul and buy ones that focus on specific learning goals. They have been great for us. If she&#8217;s progressing quickly through speech and identifying things, do-it-yourself cards may be more appropriate since you&#8217;ll be frequently adapting to her evolving needs. Goosie does offer discounts for kids with special needs (<a href="http://www.bothhandsandaflashlight.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/pdfs/Goosie_Cards_Discount_Letter_and_Application.pdf" target="blank" rel="nofollow">See the application letter I posted.</a>), which I believe they said were becoming more generous this month. </p>
<p>Another option is to get packs of flash cards from someplace like Target or a bookstore. I&#8217;d highly recommend getting ones with real photos rather than the ones that just having drawings.</p>
<p>I personally think gibberish is great. To me, it&#8217;s still a form of communication and engagement with the music. You&#8217;ll obviously be working to refine that into clearer and clearer speech over time, but we&#8217;ve learned to celebrate every kind of communication and build from there.</p>
<p>It sounds like your daughter is really progressing well! Good for her, and good for you too! And thanks for all your great questions and contributions here. Keep them coming!</p>
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		<title>By: Elysa Henegar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elysa Henegar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband Kevin and I think Velcro should somehow be incorporated into the symbol for autism along with the puzzle piece.:)   One of the kids&#039; teachers showed me that you can also seal a letter sized envelope and then cut it in half to make pockets for things if you can&#039;t find the library card holders anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband Kevin and I think Velcro should somehow be incorporated into the symbol for autism along with the puzzle piece.:)   One of the kids&#8217; teachers showed me that you can also seal a letter sized envelope and then cut it in half to make pockets for things if you can&#8217;t find the library card holders anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: asha</title>
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		<dc:creator>asha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you Tim , the flash cards I bought are just like the ones you have but I am interested in the one u hv printed Hand..how did you do it?i cant use goosie  2 expensive  i want to print  for her having toes , feet, legs ears.rest of it she knows.also she knows about 20-35 songs and their respective tunes she will put her own words sometimes just gibberish , 10 -15 animals and sounds they make,.she will associate a particular shop with particular thing ..like the shop where we buy fish , she will say fish  as soon as we enter w/o prompting.it seems sensory is the only issue we have ..her play is appropriate...she loves elmo and she does OT for him with the ball often :)) and even sings to it like her OT does for her .her 2nd  shd hv been  b&#039;day is approaching and we are so happy..your website is an inspiration for parents like me who are clueless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you Tim , the flash cards I bought are just like the ones you have but I am interested in the one u hv printed Hand..how did you do it?i cant use goosie  2 expensive  i want to print  for her having toes , feet, legs ears.rest of it she knows.also she knows about 20-35 songs and their respective tunes she will put her own words sometimes just gibberish , 10 -15 animals and sounds they make,.she will associate a particular shop with particular thing ..like the shop where we buy fish , she will say fish  as soon as we enter w/o prompting.it seems sensory is the only issue we have ..her play is appropriate&#8230;she loves elmo and she does OT for him with the ball often <img src='http://www.bothhandsandaflashlight.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) and even sings to it like her OT does for her .her 2nd  shd hv been  b&#8217;day is approaching and we are so happy..your website is an inspiration for parents like me who are clueless</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@asha - I think you&#039;re on to something there. The ability to understand letters and numbers is very common for kids with autism - I think because they are very concrete and consistent. With flash cards, I recommend people buy ones with letters or numbers that are big and bold and black on a white background. We have ones that have nothing on them except the letter or number, and we also have ones that have the letter with a picture and word under them. I think both are useful, but for starting out, as plain as they can be would be my recommendation.

Also - and this is usually the case anyway - I&#039;d recommend that all flash cards you get have letters that are both sans-serif (no little squiggly lines on the letters - the regular paragraph text on this site is sans-serif; Times New Roman is a serif font) and the various parts of the letter should have the same width throughout. I think these are much easier to read for kids. If you look at fonts on your computer, you&#039;ll notice that many have letters where the widths vary within the letter. And definitely no cursive, handwriting, etc. letters!

Example: All of these are about right in my opinion.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.bothhandsandaflashlight.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/goosie-cards-1.jpg&quot;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@asha &#8211; I think you&#8217;re on to something there. The ability to understand letters and numbers is very common for kids with autism &#8211; I think because they are very concrete and consistent. With flash cards, I recommend people buy ones with letters or numbers that are big and bold and black on a white background. We have ones that have nothing on them except the letter or number, and we also have ones that have the letter with a picture and word under them. I think both are useful, but for starting out, as plain as they can be would be my recommendation.</p>
<p>Also &#8211; and this is usually the case anyway &#8211; I&#8217;d recommend that all flash cards you get have letters that are both sans-serif (no little squiggly lines on the letters &#8211; the regular paragraph text on this site is sans-serif; Times New Roman is a serif font) and the various parts of the letter should have the same width throughout. I think these are much easier to read for kids. If you look at fonts on your computer, you&#8217;ll notice that many have letters where the widths vary within the letter. And definitely no cursive, handwriting, etc. letters!</p>
<p>Example: All of these are about right in my opinion.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.bothhandsandaflashlight.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/goosie-cards-1.jpg"/></p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JoyMama,

Totally agree on velcro tape. A complete pain in the behind.

Good call on where to put the soft-side vs. the prickly-side. I&#039;ve sort of been doing that by instinct it seems without really paying any attention to why. Sometimes it&#039;s good to be doing something right even if you aren&#039;t doing so intentionally. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JoyMama,</p>
<p>Totally agree on velcro tape. A complete pain in the behind.</p>
<p>Good call on where to put the soft-side vs. the prickly-side. I&#8217;ve sort of been doing that by instinct it seems without really paying any attention to why. Sometimes it&#8217;s good to be doing something right even if you aren&#8217;t doing so intentionally. <img src='http://www.bothhandsandaflashlight.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JoyMama</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoyMama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice.  I should probably consider getting a laminator, though so far therapists out of various offices have been willing to do the laminating for me -- I&#039;ve been doing photos in a binder, with pages made out of manila folders for the velcro-ed photos to live on.

Two additional notes to your excellent description - 
1) I endorse the velcro dots.  As opposed to, say, getting velcro tape and trying to cut it into little squares, thereby testing one&#039;s patience and gunking up one&#039;s scissors.
2) It&#039;s a good idea to put the soft-side velcro on the removable cards and the prickly-side velcro onto the folder.  That way you don&#039;t get the removable cards stuck onto things like carpet or clothing or whatever.  You probably know that, but in case any of your faithful readers don&#039;t...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice.  I should probably consider getting a laminator, though so far therapists out of various offices have been willing to do the laminating for me &#8212; I&#8217;ve been doing photos in a binder, with pages made out of manila folders for the velcro-ed photos to live on.</p>
<p>Two additional notes to your excellent description &#8211;<br />
1) I endorse the velcro dots.  As opposed to, say, getting velcro tape and trying to cut it into little squares, thereby testing one&#8217;s patience and gunking up one&#8217;s scissors.<br />
2) It&#8217;s a good idea to put the soft-side velcro on the removable cards and the prickly-side velcro onto the folder.  That way you don&#8217;t get the removable cards stuck onto things like carpet or clothing or whatever.  You probably know that, but in case any of your faithful readers don&#8217;t&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: asha</title>
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		<dc:creator>asha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gr8 ideas, just last week i bought flash cards(after seeing one of ur posts ) for her because she seems to like numbers/alphabets..thanx to elmo, she already knows quite a bit:))
now if elmo could teach her to communicate her needs  than ...also headphone is so useful ..we bought it.

once again gr8 post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gr8 ideas, just last week i bought flash cards(after seeing one of ur posts ) for her because she seems to like numbers/alphabets..thanx to elmo, she already knows quite a bit:))<br />
now if elmo could teach her to communicate her needs  than &#8230;also headphone is so useful ..we bought it.</p>
<p>once again gr8 post</p>
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