Seasonal Affective Disorder and Autism?

by Tim on November 13, 2008

This is that time of year when the days are beginning to feel really short and the decreased sunlight starts to get to me. I am a clear winner in the Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) race and have a light box on my desk to help that along. (In case you’re interested, I have the SunBox DL because it actually doubles as a nice desk lamp.)

Today was chilly and rainy and completely cloudy and pretty much parked me squarely in the blah zone. Half a pot of coffee, loud music, well not much seemed to help. To say I wasn’t very productive today is an understatement.

I picked J-Man up from school and they said he had been pretty foggy all day too. He didn’t seem really upset today or anything, but he wasn’t his normal bundle of wild energy either. They said he was just kinda there all day. That sounds familiar, and it got me thinking.

Is there any greater probability that an autistic person would also have Seasonal Affective Disorder than the general population? I looked around on the Internet but no one seems to have done any real study on that.

He may have just inherited that from me and it’s essentially coincidence that he’s also autistic. I am curious, though, that given the number of parents who give their autistic kids some melatonin to help them sleep and that research indicates that it’s likely that the lack of sunlight that brings on SAD is because of decreased melatonin production in the body, is there some sort of relation here?

I could be talking completely out of my ear here (well, I know I’m doing that), but does anyone else have the experience of their kids being kind of foggy, mopey, lethargic, or whatever in winter vs. summer? Does their behavior change in general as the seasons do, and if so, does it change for the worse or the better? (though ‘worse’ and ‘better’ are highly subjective in our world) If it did, did you do anything to try to address it? I’m not about to put an autistic kid in front of a light box without a lot of supervision considering that much light can make some people suddenly really hyper. That could turn into a big mess if you’re not careful.

This is our first post-diagnosis winter. I honestly didn’t pay attention to how the season changes affected him last year beyond the clockwork allergies we all have.

Today just got me wondering and I’d love to hear y’all’s perspective on this.

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Casdok November 14, 2008 at 3:58 pm

Something to think on!

Laura June 16, 2009 at 2:50 pm

I stumbled across your blog in my searcg for info on SAD and autism. I’m starting to wonder about my son. It has been rainy and cloudy here for the past few weeks and in that time, hhis behavior has gone from bad to worse with wild tantrums. Sleep and the need for melatonin has always been an issue and his dad has SAD so I am stating to believe there is a link between the two. I’m going hunting for more information.

Tim June 19, 2009 at 1:45 pm

Laura – it’s hard to tell how everything is related much of the time. We generally try to keep notes about all these possible connections and symptoms and whatnot (or as many as we can) and then as systematically as our tired brains can muster pursue and research the various threads until we see if there’s much to them or not.

The hard part is that autism often comes with an ‘and’, where kids have autism and something else (or multiple something elses) going on. So it could be autism and SAD (like it might be for us with autism and apraxia and sensory disorders and who knows what else).

With SAD, one of the main techniques to address it is a light box (got mine from Sunbox) for so many minutes a day. One problem there – these lights can potentially trigger manic episodes in people with bipolar disorder. So it could perhaps cause negative behavioral changes in a person with autism too if it ‘excites’ their brains in some way. Who knows. I’m really just theorizing (at best) here.

So to make my long ramble shorter, the question becomes, OK let’s say there is some potential relationship there between autism and SAD. What do we actually do about it? I doubt there’s any clear answer yet. I’d be interested to see what you find out.

I know a LOT of autistic kids on melatonin. We haven’t had to as we’ve thankfully gotten J-Man’s sleep seemingly figured out now. (Hope I didn’t just jinx it.) I know several parents who’ve also incorporated other medications in to help with sleep, particularly in situations where the lack of sleep feeds a vicious cycle of wild behaviors which begets even less sleep and so on.

It’s great that you’re making these observations about the weather and his behavioral changes. If as parents we can spot the variables that affect our kids’ behaviors the most – whether it’s weather, the position of the furniture, doing something in the ‘wrong’ order, the price of tea in Ceylon, etc. – then we can take steps to address them. There are just so many variables – and often it’s the smallest thing that does it – that it’s a huge challenge to isolate the culprits and then actually figure out what to do about it.

Again, if you’d like to share what you find out, would love to hear about it.

Katherine July 25, 2009 at 11:26 pm

i just stumbled on this blog and i am very glad to see it. no one in my family has ever been diagnosed with SAD but i am wondering about my autistic son. his behavior changes so drastically in the winter/summer that he has been evaluated for seizures and bipolar disorder. i don’t even know much about SAD because all of the web site info i find seems to be written about adults in that it causes depression. in the fall and winter, my son sleeps more, watches tv and plays video games constantly and is ridiculously lethargic. in the summer time, he eats more, sleeps less, is more irritable and aggressive. the up side to the spring/summer mood is that he learns faster and better and seems to be more engaged. it is confusing to say the least.

Tim July 27, 2009 at 10:47 pm

Katherine – it’s quite possible there is a SAD component to his behavior, though I’m obviously not the best person to ask. A huge percentage of humanity experiences some level of effects from the number of hours of sun during the day. The increases in levels of depression and suicide in very northern latitudes where days are very short or non-existent in the winter are well-documented. I think it’s just a biological need programmed into us.

One interesting effect of that light therapy box I use in the winter is that if you use it for too long in one sitting, you can get much more hyper or irritable. I know for people with bipolar disorder that they have to be carefully monitored at first when using light therapy for SAD as too much light can sometimes trigger a hypomanic or manic episode. It’s pretty much like trying to adjust a very sensitive thermostat, and it’s not hard to overcompensate.

I know little about the effects of light therapy on kids with SAD, though I imagine their sensitivity to both the therapies and the effects of SAD in the first place might be more prone to swings than many adults. I could be completely talking out of my ear, too.

I’m not sure what type of specialist would be the most useful to talk to about this. I know there are psychologists who specialize in SAD, but you’re right in that more research seems to exist about adults. I’d be inclined to ask around for a neurologist who might have some ideas too.

I’m often in a state somewhere between contentment and bliss during spring and fall. I’m pretty lethargic in winter – though not as much as I used to be. I’m just grumpy in summer because it’s so dang hot! :-) I’m a clear poster child for seasonal mood changes.

I’m interested to hear what you find out. Let us know!

Lisa July 16, 2010 at 3:01 pm

Hello everyone! I am a special education teacher in Fairbanks. I’m looking at different research topics on Autism, and am considering the effects of sunlight on ASD. It’s a huge undertaking, and would love opinions from experts, (particularly parents) if you have any.
Thank you,
Lisa

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